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Archive-name: usenet/news-groups-reviews
Posting-Frequency: Twice monthly to ngr, monthly to news.answers
Maintainer: " moderators"

24-Jun-2005: New URL
23-Apr-2003: Changed 'How is Moderation Performed' to reflect new software
23-Apr-2003: Changed submission and contact addresses
23-Apr-2003: Changed Review-Date: auxilliary header
23-Apr-2003: Added info for getting this from the autoresponder
23-Apr-2003: Added info on gated mailing list
13-Jan-2002: Changed submission address.
29-Nov-2001: Changed moderator contact address.
29-Nov-2001: Changed Review-Date: auxiliary header.

What is
=========================== (ngr) is a moderated group for the publishing of 
reviews of newsgroups or publicly accessible mailing lists. It is not a 
high volume group as all discussions of the reviews will happen in the 
reviewed group.

If you feel that you could write a review then please read on for 
To submit a review please post it to or, if you do 
not seem to be getting through, mail it to
I will then either post your review or, if it does not meet the 
guidelines, return it to you with an explanation.

Who are the moderators

The moderators are:
Graham Drabble. (Head Moderator)
Brian Edmonds. (Modbot Host and Backup Moderator)
Kathy Morgan. (Backup Moderator)
Red Mike. (Backup Moderator)

If you wish to contact the moderators then please mail

How is moderation performed?

Your posts will be sent to the modbot which then sends a copy of the post
to each moderator. They can then decide whether to approve or reject the
post. The software is currently set up such that the decision is made by 
the first moderator to reply. If you wish to appeal a rejection then 
please contact the whole moderation team at with a copy of your rejected post 
and we will get back to you as soon as possible.

How long will this take?

I expect to check the submission address nightly and will then either 
post the review or return it with comments as soon as I have been able
to check it. However there may be some nights that I can't manage this,
although I will try to inform the backup moderators if this is the 
case, so please leave at least 3 days before contacting

Review Guidelines

Reviews should try to be as positive as possible. Whilst comparisons 
with other groups are allowed please try to keep these civil. Also, if 
you wish to mention individual users in your review then please double 
check that what you are saying is true and that they don't mind.

Reviews should be written to reflect the long-term use of the group as 
I will only allow one review per group every 6 months. Preference will 
be given to those who haven't reviewed the group before to ensure a 
balanced view is shown.

The specifics

To be accepted for posting to news.groups reviews a review must be in 
the following format:


Newsgroups:     This must contain the group being reviewed and 
From:           Does not have to be a real address. However if it is     
                not then please provide it at the top of the auxiliary 
                headers in case I need to contact you.
Followup-To:    One of the groups that is being reviewed. (I will allow
                Followup-To: poster.)
Subject:        Must be [REVIEW] The group.

These can be in any order. 
Note: I will allow X-No-Archive: Yes to be set but this will not 
prevent it being archived at the site. I will try 
and contact you before posting to check this is OK.

For mailing lists the newsgroup line need only contain and the post will be CC'd to the mailing list. 
Follow-ups must be directed to poster as I will not allow them in

Auxiliary Headers

These are actually part of the body of the message but are set apart 
from the rest and provide a quick reference for people and will form 
part of the archive.

Real-Address:   If you aren't using a real address in the from: header 
                then please provide it here. I will delete this line 
                before posting.
Newsgroup:      The affected newsgroup (or Mailing-List: if                 
Description:    The one line description from the newsgroups file. I     
                can probably fill this in if asked. (For mailing list a     
                short (under 60 character) description.)
Moderated:      Yes / No
Moderator-Submission-Address:   (if applicable) The address for sending
                                articles to be posted.
Moderator-Contact-Address:      (if applicable) The address for 
                                contacting the moderator if different 
                                from above.
Charter-Location:       If there is a group charter available please put
                        the URL here. If not I'll put the URL of the 
                        control message in the archives if I can
                        find it. (Not required for mailing lists)
FAQ-Location:   If there is an FAQ available then please put the URL     
                here otherwise write "none". If the group has an FAQ     
                which is not archived on the web then please indicate     
                its posting frequency and subject.
Reviewer:       Same as from: in headers or Real-Address: auxiliary
Review-Date:    This is the date that you wrote (or submitted if writing
                took a long time) the post.


The review itself.


I will allow .sig files provided that they are properly deliminated 
(start with the line -- (dash-dash-space)) and are no more than 6 lines 

If you are unable to set any of the headers or auxiliary headers 
correctly then please feel free to put a note before the auxiliary 
headers asking the moderators to set them.


Newsgroups: test.test,
From: "Graham Drabble" <>
Followup-To: test.test
Subject: [REVIEW] test.test

Newsgroup: test.test
Description: Test group of test.*
Moderated: no
Charter-location: http://www.test-hierarchy.invalid/charter/test
FAQ-Location: none
Reviewer: "Graham Drabble" <>

test.test is for the testing of posts to test.*. Articles with a valid 
from: or reply-to: will get an auto-responder message from some sites 
which carry the group. Very useful group.
Graham Drabble

Which groups / mailing lists can I review?

Any group. There is no restriction of what groups can be reviewed. Only 
publicly accessible mailing lists can be reviewed. Publicly accessible 
is taken to mean that anyone can read the group, it is not necessary 
for everyone to have posting privileges.

Archives and Rejected Posts

An old archive from before I took over can be 
found at or you can search 

Gated Mailing List

All postings to are also distributed to the mailing 
list, which is available in both regular 
and digest format. For subscription information, send email to or visit the list webpage at Likewise, 
all postings to the mailing list are also distributed to the newsgroup,
so subscribers can use whichever of the newsgroup, list, or digest 
formats is most comfortable.

A copy of this FAQ can also be obtained by e-mail. Mail with the command 'get file: faq'
in the subject.

Graham Drabble
Head Moderator -